THE CASE FOR NICER NATIONALISM


STEPHEN HUGH-JONES | ON LANGUAGE AND LIFE | November 9th 2007

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You can be a Scottish (or Irish or Tibetan) nationalist, and the world will enthuse with you; but try being an English one and the world (to say nothing of the Scots) will give you a dark look, complains Stephen Hugh-Jones ...

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What do we mean by English? Much of the world, Americans included, uses the word as if it simply meant British. In the early 1970s I explored a ruined French farmyard whose gateway still bore, just legible, a slogan painted by its occupiers 30 years earlier: Gott strafe England. Glasgow, Cardiff and Belfast should have been so lucky. But from inside the United Kingdom, this usage sounds very odd. And increasingly so.

I'm prompted to these thoughts by the extraordinary Indian summer (there's another national adjective of diverse meanings) that the English south has enjoyed this year. We cannot match New England, with its fiery maples. But the autumn woods on the Sussex-Hampshire borders have been, oaks and beeches above all, a tapestry such as I've never seen of green, yellow, copper, bronze and gold, and, here too, occasional flaming reds.

And what a sense of place, and gratitude for it, they give me. I was brought up in Scotland. I'd happily live again in France. I'm an urban being, having spent most of my adult life in London. Yet when I see the rare splendour of these trees, the church spire amid them (not that I go there), the lanes and small, hedged fields, the Hereford cattle (all right, or Friesian) and blackfaced sheep--yes, even the plethora of pheasants, albeit bred for a slaughter I dislike by sportsmen whom I've little in common with--I feel profoundly English. This is where I belong.

That's a spirit much mocked these days. Middle-brow writing a century ago was full of England and English feeling. Yet that has largely gone, or been transmuted into a feeling for Britain. Today you can be a Scottish (or Irish or Tibetan) nationalist, and the world will enthuse with you; but be an English one and--if it's heard of Englishness at all, or has any idea that that is not identical with Britishness, which mostly it hasn't--it will mutter words like cricket, vicar, Grantchester, fox-huntin' and cream teas, or hint darkly that what you really mean is you don't like people whose faces are brown or black. Or indeed, if you go to Scotland, may greet you with a frostiness, or worse, that could make you think Edinburgh was Dublin in 1916 (where, for the record, oddly few of the Irish thought the largely justifiable Easter rising was justified at all).

Of course this isn't true of all the world, nor all Scots. And many of those muttering will be English themselves. That truly is absurd: to many Englishmen, it's fine to belong to almost any nation on earth and be proud of it (America perhaps, in their eyes, excepted), yet to say I'm English and happy to be so is at best laughable and at worst next to bellowing the Horst Wessel song at a bar-mitzvah.

I think the world, and those of my fellow English, mistaken, both in historical fairness and, more important, about present-day fact. Patriotism has been called "the last refuge of the scoundrel". So it can be. But as a generality, that is nonsense. The feeling is deep-rooted in most of us. Very deep. You can be an American and deplore this or that aspect of your country or its policies; and yet, as I surely would, sing the "Star-Spangled Banner" with a lump in your throat.

I once on television saw Jessye Norman singing the "Marseillaise" in Paris, as France celebrated the bicentenary of the fall of the Bastille. As a performance, it was ludicrous: the unfortunate diva, swathed in a huge pennant-shaped tricolour, had to sing slower and slower as band and crowd fell behind, till the lively anthem sounded more like a funeral dirge (or "God save the Queen"). But I was moved, and if I were French, my goodness I'd have felt proud.

Regional, local or ethnic 'nationalism' seems to me as natural. And sometimes as significant. I'm disinclined either to proclaim or apologise for the right or wrong that we English have done in past centuries: that was then, this is now. And much of it anyway was done in Britain's name by Scotsmen and others. But to ignore the political potential of any loyalty is folly.

Strangely, for a nation once so proud of itself, we British--yes, I'm that sort of nationalist too--have often underestimated the patriotism of others. We did it in Ireland, India, Egypt, Cyprus (and Malvinas-seeking Argentina), to go no farther afield or longer back. Dominant majorities do it at their peril, as the English so long discounted the feelings of many Scots. Northern Ireland's Protestants made that mistake, so for decades did Anglo Canada.

But the converse also can be true. Majorities have their feelings too. As Scottish separatism has grown, English nationalism is rising. Some politicians see votes to be won in it; not least, our Conservatives' leader, David Cameron, his party beaten three times on the trot and with little to lose in Scotland anyway. The results may not be pretty.

That's true, though, of any strong sentiment. I'm happy for anyone to feel Scottish or Irish, or Ruritanian or red-headed for that matter. Just allow me to be English, even if that feeling is spurred merely by the passing colour of some leaves. I don't want to stick the red cross of St George on a pole in my front garden, still less beat some rival football hooligan round the head with it. But what I feel is what I feel, OK? One can do worse.

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Comments

As an American, It feels


As an American, It feels like the adverse is true. It would be perfectly normal and sane for someone English to be proud of their background, yet it's naive, and a bit creepy to be proud of being an American.

What is nicer about it?


I feel your sense of aggrievement, and I double it. I am a mix of four different ethnicities, and at this point in the 21st century, each of my heritages (Scots, Sicilian, French-Algerian, and African-American) nurses its wounds continually, and is not retiring in expressing its needs to be a separately-defined national entity.

As for Axion's comment above, I have lived in Tuscaloosa (Alabama), Lubbock (Texas), and Bakersfield (California) in my time in the States, and I have never seen anyone there fail to appear proud to be an American in public and private.

Of course you may find things different in New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles, but the cosmopolitan experience is much removed from the rural. I now live in Sansepolcro (Italy) after having spent two years in Milan. The range of acceptable topics of conversation about the nation is much more circumscribed.

OK but 'England' is a much


OK but 'England' is a much bigger and more diverse nationalism than most others - way bigger and more diverse than the Celtic fringe nationalisms referred to, themselves way bigger and more diverse than much younger nationalisms such as those of the US or, say, Australia.

I don't like cricket, I love it, I'm a highly educated ex-pat 'staying on' in what was one of the final colonial outposts, Hong Kong, I'm proud on the whole of the last 150 years or so of English history, but I'm not, and can never be a real English nationalist.

Due to our national diversity, there's just too little in common with too many others who claim to be.

And I'll tell you one thing - when the Tories give up the idea of Britain, they cease to be Tories.

Long live the union of (incredibly diverse) England, Wales and Scotland, and N. Ireland if they wish.

Look, when you're done


Look, when you're done hating yourself, make a point of reading the post, getting it's drift, and disposing of your double standards.

The only reason "it's naive, and a bit creepy to be proud of being an American" is because you actually pay more attention to someones' bleatings if they aren't American and need a slag at some imagined "autority" to get out of bed in the morning. It also comes at no cost to them.

Ignore them. It's not just wrong to overly differenciate others based on their nationality, it's even more foolish to try to please a cretin.

So by all means - SEE THE WORLD, young Axion. In fact see it for what it really is.

Englishness


Quote: "if it's heard of Englishness at all, or has any idea that that is not identical with Britishness, .......... Or indeed, if you go to Scotland, may greet you with a frostiness, or worse, that could make you think Edinburgh was Dublin in 1916 (where, for the record, oddly few of the Irish thought the largely justifiable Easter rising was justified at all)."

'Britishness' actually stemmed from the Easter rising. It was frantically introduced to instil a sense of unity during a period when WWI was going badly for the allies.

The Royal family changed its name at more or less the same time. Touch and go times for the establishment.

Indeed apart from the establishment (civil service, the Crown, passports etc) most aspects of UK life, particularly literature, was English, Scottish or Irish. The poor old Welsh would be justified in having a grievance about identity then, but not much of one.

The English had to subsume their Englishness to appease the rest. However, we never lost our identity. When the UK finally expires nothing will change in England. We will still make most of the money and the rest of the world will still call us 'England' and 'English'.

I personally can't wait for that day.

Englishness and Scottish origins


Well, there's a coincidence. As you may read this coming weekend, I was brought up in Scotland in the home of (though I don't name him) David Hay Thorburn, born 1880 and descended from a Hay family in Leith. Any known kin of yours?
Stephen Hugh-Jones

Just try being a Jewish nationalist.....


Oh my God, call the PC police! A f--king Zionist has just colonized the website!

Pride in being American is


Pride in being American is independent of a shared ethnicity, or cultural heritage, or religious outlook. There are no roots going back to a shared antiquity that make us who we are. Our pride is independent of the accidents of history that have brought together many other nations and that serve as the basis for their pride.

Anyone can be an American, and anyone can share in the accompanying pride because the basis for that pride is the conscious adoption of a set of principles and beliefs about the role of government and the rights of the people (and the states, though that is not as much of an historical accident as it might seem). Our pride reflects these beliefs and is the most inclusive pride there is: we welcome all who would share it with us.

What about civic apathy and the misdeeds of our representative government? Such things exist. But, while lamentable, they are common to all peoples and their attempts to organize themselves.

In short, America is the greatest political experiment of all time and we should all be proud of it -- it reflects man's best attempt to organize under the rule of law.

As far as English pride goes, the first and most important point should be England's own constitution. (Although I suppose I don't know enough about British history to know the national identities of all the players involved in the Magna Carta.)

For possibly the best English description of the pride resulting from historical accident, I would recommend to the reader Chesterton's The Napoleon of Notting Hill.

Nice, but dangerous


A very interesting, nicely written article on a very contemporary issue. Nationalism is on the rise in various countries (you mention Scotland) and within countries (Basques, Catalans, Flemish, etc.). But as good and necessary as that proud feeling might be, it is a dangerous one IF exploited by politicians.

The problem is really, that as soon as that feeling is there, it is just a question of WHEN it will be exploited by politicians. And sadly, this kind of use of nationalism has generally culminated in discontent (to say the least) or atrocities (more than once).

It is often the case that to exploit nationalism you need to differentiate who the nation is, and as soon as you do that you also state who the nation is not. You already imply in your article that the rise of Scottish nationalism gives way to English nationalism. Would an increase of English nationalism not lead to the Welsh trying to assert themselves (better)? And as soon as everyone has establish exactly who is Scottish and English and Welsh, what happens to all those others who are non of these (2nd. generation immigrants, naturalized citizens) but felt British (that all-encompassing, unifying category)?